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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

You may not care if I'm straight or gay unless I come on to you while your husband is shopping or if I try to seduce your son. The problem with gays in the priesthood is that over 80% of abuse involves teenage boys and 73 % of gay men admit to having come on to a teenage boy for sex. That's why 40 dioceses have filed for bankruptcy along with the Boy Scouts of America. Also, our orientation also affects our theology and moral positions. That's why gays and lesbians believe that "LGBTQ rights and abortion rights are inseparable." Listen closely to homilies given by straight and gay priests and you may understand why gay clerics like Pope Francis, Cardinals Cupich and McElroy have no problem giving communion to pro-abortion politicians. If Biden approached a straight priest for communion, he probably would be told, "Go to confession and ask forgiveness for the unborn children whose deaths you facilitated. Then you can present yourself for holy communion."

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

I raised that point in a previous article in which I showed how marriages are being annulled based on fraud. Consequently, if you applied that same methodology to the ordination of homosexuals, one could argue that they were never validly ordained.

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votecreatedequal's avatar

Those who are calling for married priests should consider that there is just as much opportunity for nepotism coverup (think Hunter Biden) and blackmail on account of errant family Members.

The laity must demand a clean house, Even if that means a vastly shrunken priesthood. Maybe then, the Good Men will come back.

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

If you want me to say, like Cardinal Mahoney who denied the Church had a serious HIV/AIDS problem, that studies about celibacy that I referenced in my article are not true, I cannot compromise the truth and say you’re right and they are all wrong. I have heard too many priests’ confessions to cover up what you don’t seem to want to hear. There are many good priests like Father “M” who is the pastor of my friend’s Church. But what my friend and the parishioners do not know is that their inspiring pastor fathered two children who have grown up without a Dad who truly loves them and their mother. All three of the priests in the three local parishes where I live are all gay like the bishop. You might believe them if they said they were celibate. I lived for 5 years with two priests who were hitting on my altar boys without my knowledge. They came on to the teenage boys just like they were groomed when they were in the seminary. The priest who followed me was very much liked. He never harmed a flea. However, five years later he left to “marry” a Presbyterian minister friend. I could go on and one. Most of these cases were hidden so as not to “scandalize the faithful.”

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TruthSeeker's avatar

“A lot of us would love to bed him, but he’s definitely straight.” This line alone made me want to vomit. All of this is mind-blowing to me. I sorta wish I didn’t know. The level of deception and evil is beyond my comprehension. We live in such a compromised world. No wonder so many have left the Church. I would consider it myself if it wasn’t for the Eucharist and that I know that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life and the Catholic faith was passed on through Jesus to the apostles. Satan messes with my head but Our Lord and his Blessed Mother will triumph in the end. No wonder Jesus weeps. No wonder we are in such a sorry state. Lord, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

This article makes me, a Protestant, wonder how it is that believing Catholics cannot see that the structural Roman Catholic Church cannot be The True Church. If you consider the words Christ speaks to the churches in Revelation, you know it cannot be. Go ahead, Catholics, lash away, but please understand that we believing Protestants love you.

Ecclesia. "The called out ones," the ones "from every tribe and nation." Read C.S. Lewis' marvelous description of what the Church is.

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Amie's avatar

The Protestant churches all have similar problems and a lot has been written about it.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

That simply is not true, not as you would have us believe.

There is a woman named Julie Roys, whose YouTube channel and e - newsletter I urge you to start paying attention to. Her work is dedicated to exposing the rot within Protestant churches. Here is the difference: she writes about exposure, not about coverup.

We've all become familiar with the repulsive experience of seeing yet another news story about a teacher of either sex exploiting a child or adolescent in a public, private, or parochial school. They seem to happen every day, don't they? We're hardly surprised anymore.

The Roys Report is like an Evangelical version of this.

But how often do we see anything like this out of The Roman Catholic Church? The stories have been seeping out over the years in the same way a serial killer's clandestine graveyard eventually becomes so overfilled with corpses biological matter starts to deep out of the ground.

That's what this all reminds me of. And you Roman Catholics know that analogy is exactly correct. The stench of corruption is overwhelming. The whole institution is filthy with corruption. How can you pretend any longer that it isn't? And how can you think that God isn't enraged by it? Jesus went after the moneychangers in the Temple with a whip. What they were doing was an assault on the holiness of the Father's House.

Is it possible for Roman Catholics to persuade themselves any longer that this is not?

Here's a thought experiment: try to imagine there had never been a vow of celibacy within Catholicism, and that priests had been free to marry all along. Because of sin, there would have been scandal, but it would have been the kind of thing you see in Julie Roys' work: a diocese firing a priest because he had been grooming and eventually abusing a teenaged girl; embezzlement; empire building; the usual boring and depressing adulterous affair between a priest and his secretary; the occasional exposure of a priest as duplicitous and having had a gay double life.

You criticize us because you think we have no structure, while the truth is, we have plenty of it. I am hardly familiar with the structures of other denominations than my own, Presbyterian Church in America, but we have an Elder system which insures that nothing like the horror which this brave and excellent article delineates could ever happen to us. Each church in the PCA appoints Elders, of whom the pastor and any assistant pastors are a part, but the pastor must listen to the Elders with respect, and he can be outvoted.

My pastor is a dear man in his mid - fifties, but a sinner as we all are. It's lately been figured out that he has Asperger's, which is not his fault but which aggravated the following sin in him: as the Bible says of people who are prone to it, he had begun to think better of himself than he had a right to. This led to his insulting two of the other Elders in Session ( the monthly meeting ), and a wonderful man in his mid twenties who was a new Deacon. In a sermon during this period he had pointed out another young man who had gotten drunk at a church party and had all but crawled in contrition, and alluded to him in passing as an object lesson to other young Christians about behavior to avoid.

Two of the Elders filed charges with the District Presbytery, which encompasses several states. The matter was in abeyance for close to a year as a specially appointed committed analyzed the evidence. The pastor could have been put on trial and his license to preach in the PCA rescinded. He was as repentant as the young man he had humiliated in that sermon. Eventually, the jurors decided that he would be reprimanded. He was required to stand at the front of the church he had been pastoring for twenty years while the Presbytery's formal reprimand was read aloud.

If the pastor had instead of arrogance been discovered to have cheated on his wife, he would have been expelled from ministry.

That's a not atypical Protestant church scandal. We do have our creeps, but they tend to be heterosexual creeps, such as happened in the Texas Southern Baptist Convention several years ago. Again, it was exposed, and dozens of men, at least fifty, were booted from ministry.

Mr Gomulka's article just told you that 80 of your pastors are gay, with most of them being active, and The Roman Catholic Church's doing everything possible to keep covering it up. Many of these priests are pedophiles, while most are what other gay men are, attracted to teenaged boys. The odds favor your next Pope's being an unrepentant sexual pervert.

Who with a straight face can compare this with anything which goes on in Protestantism? Your church is run by a necessarily vast and elaborate network of men who for decades have been devoted to covering up appalling sin, and with the Church's stupid and anti Biblical celibacy rule, insuring that it will persist.

This is demonic.

I meant what I said. Protestants love you. Evangelicals love you. Believing Protestants and believing Catholics can recite The Apostles Creed exuberantly together. All Protestant Christology comes from The Holy Catholic Church, as it was then called. Any Protestant church which departs from the Trinitarian understanding which was hammered out at the ecumenical councils has become apostate. I love what The Roman Catholic Church could have been, and know only lament that it has become the catastrophic, destructive thing which it is.

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TruthSeeker's avatar

Get a grip, sister. You’re out of control. I have more love and concern for our Catholic Church than you can even fathom. You know nothing about me. Sounds to me like you’re the one filled with hate. Have a blessed night. Sleep well.

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votecreatedequal's avatar

Are these homosexual cardinals (oxymoronic) actually valid electors, given that Benedict Said homosexuals cannot be priests? Who are they to judge?

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William Murphy's avatar

There was that 1961 Vatican Instruction which absolutely forbade the admission of homosexuals to the priesthood or religious life. See section 30, subpara 4. It seems to have been totally ignored, along with the 1962 document from Pope John XXIII on the wider use of Latin. Were homosexual candidates' original priestly ordinations invalid due to fraud or deception?

https://adoremus.org/1961/02/religiosorum-institutio/

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Eric S's avatar

Yeah because no Protestant minister or high school teacher has ever abused anybody... The problem is not celibacy of clergy. The problem is that a) we live in sex obsessed and sex infused culture and b) the Church has long ago abandoned her defenses against that.

If the priests for example were to go back to praying the pre-1911 Divine Office that Pius X stupidly and illicitly banned then that alone would take up enough of their time and energy to help lessen this problem. Not to mention it would as well expose them to something of great beauty of a completely non sexual nature.

But then of course you also have the fact that many homosexual men were deliberately infiltrated into the priesthood and episcopate in an attempt to destroy it. And getting rid of clerical celibacy will do nothing to solve that problem

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

You fail to realize that celibacy has never really been observed by most of the clergy. After it was mandated at the First and Second Lateran Councils, you still

had a number of popes who were very sexually promiscuous homosexuals and heterosexuals. You need to understand that forgoing having a wife and children is infinitly more difficult than getting someone to stop sticking his penus into someone else's a__. The Scriptures are grounded in the Natural Law and that's perhaps why Judaism never supported celilbacy because they felt it was unattainable for most people (which statistically speaking, at 2%, it seems to be the case). Also, celibacy for diocesan clergy who often live alone unllike religious clergy who live in community, does not follow any scriptural paradigm. Jesus lived in community with his apostles, and not alone. Jesus even sent forth his disciples/apostles "two by two." It does not mean that a diocesan priest cannot chose to lead a celibate life. It just means he would no longer be forced to do so if he ever wants to get ordained. Note too that the 12th-century popes who presided over the councils that mandated celibacy were from religious orders where celibacy/chastity is practical as you cannot have married couples living together in community. Those popes never lived alone like a diocesan priest. Knowing the facts about clerical celibacy, I cannot understand why anyone wants to set a person up for failure unless you are naive to believe that priests lead faithful celibate lives. I mistakenly thought that was possible when I was first ordained and I cannot fraudulently continue to propagate that myth. It would be like selling you a car without telling you that it was in a very serious flood.

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Eric S's avatar

The Scriptures are grounded in Divine Law of which natural law is but an emanation. And we're not Jews we're Christians. Christianity is an otherworldly religion as celibacy is an otherworldly vocation. Celibacy was not ordained because it is 'practical' but because it draws one out of this world to the next - which is incidentally where the priest is supposed to be leading his flock.

And what you are saying and all of the excuses you are making is an insult to the thousands and thousands and thousands of priests throughout the centuries who have in fact maintained their celibate vocation.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

Eric S., you forget that the Catholic Church bills itself as the "one true Church" that preaches "the fullness of the Gospel." If that claim is correct, then the church has earned special condemnation from a holy, righteous God, who views clerical sex abuse as a sin that cries out to Heaven.

You also forget that clerical celibacy would get rid of one major problem: the prevalence of homosexuals in the clergy. Homosexuals have used the clergy as the only career open to them and they've been doing it for at least a millennium. Go look up St. Peter Damian's "Liber Gomorrahianus," which was published in 1049!

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

Joseph, I didn't forget that "clerical celibacy would get rid of one major problem: the prevalence of homosexuals in the clergy" as that was a point I was making here and in previous articles available at http://johneighteenthirtyseven.substack.com The pope and bishops at the First and Second Lateran Councils thought they could curb clergy misbehavior by madating celibacy. Not only did that not succeed, but they also made the problem worse because (as Dr. Jules Gomes noted) it discouraged heterosexual vocations; increased the percentage of homosexual clergy who have far, far, far more sex partners than heterosexuals. For a more detailed examination of our current "State of the Church," allow me to refer you to www.gomulka.net/State.pdf

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

Gene, I wasn't referring to you. You do yeoman work exposing the garbage that most Catholics don't want exposed. I was responding to Eric S's comments. Thank you very much for the links. Since your reply, I changed my original comment to let readers know I was addressing Eric S. specifically.

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

Sorry about that. When your comment popped up on my screen, I didn't see you responding to someone else.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

No problem.

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Eric S's avatar

Incidentally my friend Peter Damien was writing about 150 years BEFORE clerical celibacy was made mandatory

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

So what? Maybe the problem isn't celibacy per se but *mandatory* celibacy. I strongly suggest you read 1 Timothy 4: 3-5. If that's not a prophetic indictment of Catholicism's infatuation with the esoteric, nothing is.

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Eric S's avatar

Spare me about Peter Damian. A) he was writing about a very dark and corrupt age and b) he was a reformer and accustomed to using dramatic language to get his point across. Find me someone else who wrote during the next five hundred years who wrote the way he did.

And actually as I recall now the goings on in the time of Peter Damian were actually what made the Popes declare once and for all that clergy had to remain celibate.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

Spare you about Peter Damien? Really? What kind of a jackass are you? Do you fear God? Or are you so infatuated with being Catholic that you effectively worship the church as God rather than God as God?

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Eric S's avatar

Seriously man. Try reading what I actually said and responding to that. And if you're so Godly try using better language.

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Joseph D'Hippolito's avatar

You don’t like my language? Why don’t you read Matthew 23? Or why don’t you read anything John the Baptist said to the Pharisees? Why don’t you read what the prophet Elijah said to the prophets of Ba’al?

Or maybe you should stop being such a pearl-clutching, uber-pious deleted expletive?

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Eric S's avatar

So you're now claiming to be John the Baptist?

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William Murphy's avatar

Thanks so much, Fr Gene, for questioning whether our clergy at all levels are open to blackmail. Is the Pope a Catholic? I remember articles years ago pointing to MAB (Mutually Assured Blackmail) where clergy were hopelessly trapped by knowing one another's sexual secrets.

If Bishop Tom was caught at seminary and not expelled instantly, he knows that any other clergy might still know his secret. So he will be extra accommodating to every delinquent cleric who he governs.

Maybe no one alive actually knows what allegedly happened at that wild party 40 years ago, but he cannot take the risk. It may well still be buried in the archives. Especially if a particular priest has access to the records....and that particular priest has access because he is working at Bishop's House because he cannot be assigned to a parish......

You mention John Vassall, the bent British civil servant. His shadow was very evident in my UK civil service days (1975 to 1995). Certain jobs were advertised with the warning that the candidates would be subject to "Positive Vetting". PV involved a background investigation to see if the candidate had extreme political views, drink/drug problems, irregular pelvic urges, compulsive gambling issues, sheer inability to handle money and any other dangers such as not keeping his mouth shut.

Obviously something had to be seen to be done about security risks or the UK would never again have any allies, military or economic. Who would trust any "ally" whose compromised servants would sell your secrets to a mutual enemy?

How many of our senior clergy would survive PV? Especially if the investigator valued economy of effort and started at the pelvic end. This should take about five minutes, with a half page report.....

Why on earth did my own bishop ordain a guy who had already been kicked out of seminary? I had the impression that if you were asked to leave seminary that was absolutely the end of the road. The Church had already invested tens of thousands in training you and was definitely not going to pay tens of thousands more to give you a second chance.

No surprise that Father Second Chance had a serious drink problem. We did not need Graham Green to tell us about priests and the bottle. But there was that unforgettable night when he had dinner with the parish Master of Ceremonies and made romantic advances. In vino veritas.

Yes, much wine had been taken. But he must have been totally pissed to try it on with a serving policeman. So he has been "care of Bishop's House" for a few years. Not even our Bishop dare put him on a parish, now that he is the subject of parish gossip and was out on the late Bishop Buckley's blog.

Yet Father Second Chance remains to be laicised. So he looks as if he is getting an indefinite Third Chance. Who knows or cares who is "care of Bishop's House"? We see only the priests on the parishes. At least one other priest in our diocese has been in that happy assignment for many years.

No wonder that the Vatican is in bed with Communist China. Any secret service in the world worth its invisible ink will have known for many years what you have published about Pope Francis. Especially Mossad, the CIA, the Russians, the major Arab states..... Plus probably MI6, the Deuxieme Bureau, the Germans, the French, the Italians, the Japanese, the Poles (who have a particular interest in JPII's totally corrupt secretary Cardinal Dziwicz)......

No surprise that in one of his first publications, Evangelii Gaudium, para 253, Pope Francis insisted that Islam is a religion of peace. And that he betrayed Catholic doctrine in Feb 2019 by signing the Document on Human Fraternity. All religions are willed by God. Including the Religion of Peace. Must be a nightmare that both sides in the Middle East, and just about everywhere else, know your bedroom secrets.

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TruthSeeker's avatar

Takes Complicit Clergy to a whole new level of significance. God help us.

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Jules Gomes's avatar

Jawdropping! The Roman church is deeply diseased.

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TruthSeeker's avatar

Get a grip, sister. You’re out of control. I have more love and concern for our Catholic Church than you can even fathom. Sounds to me like you’re the one filled with hate. Have a blessed night. Sleep well.

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Mike Rizzio's avatar

Gene this Pink Elephant is so huge it makes me want to cry.

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Aaron's avatar

No one in the Conciliar church gets to any position of authority unless they know something and that knowledge can be used to silence him. 10-1 says Bergoglio knew a great deal, but was either a) 100% supportive, or b) threatened with exposure if he did anything. Sodomites are vengeful, spiteful, and vicious.

Think I am wrong? Why are all the "good guys" silent? Where is Burke's formal correction, or why does Schneider consistently distort what the Doctors and Fathers of the Church have said about heresy, heretics, and loss of office? They are only where they are because they can be controlled.

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

When I was a young priest, I had no idea about all the predatory behavior and cover-ups in the Church. I didn't even know two young priests with whom I served in a parish were hitting on my altar boys until decades later. It was only when I became more senior that I discovered not only all the abuse that was going on, but also how consensual homosexual misconduct was rampant among the clergy. When I reported this in writing, my corrupt military archbishop and diocesan bishop realized that making me a Monsignor was a huge mistake, as I, like Eliot Ness, could not be bought. It was only a matter of time before I, and Father Tom Doyle, another whistleblower, had our ecclesiastical endorsements pulled to serve as military chaplains. Unfortunately, the complicit, corrupt prelates that got rid of us are living comfortable lives; many of the abusers are still protected by prelates like Dolan, McElroy, and Broglio; and only a few of the predators are behind bars like former Navy Chaplain Father Matt Lee who is serving a 30 year sentence in a federal prison in Petersburg, VA,

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William Murphy's avatar

Maybe your message is getting through to other areas, Fr Gene. Here is Janet Smith in Crisis Magazine:

https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-new-pope-must-purge-the-church-of-the-lavender-mafia

Somehow I don't think much purging is going to happen in our lifetimes, especially if one of the Homintern is elected Pope .

Even the BBC is prepared to sound a sour note on Pope Francis' record on abuse. Obviously they are telling only a tiny fraction of the horrors. And, amazingly, their chosen story is about a little girl being abused by a priest. It would clearly be homophobic to run a story about a priest and an adolescent boy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62x0ej1n7eo

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

While the media does not want to be accused of homophobia, it is members of the closeted Lavender Mafia who are outrageously heterophobic.

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Aaron's avatar

There is a reason Bergoglio never went back to Argentina. Numerous Argentinian sources reported that he was likely to be arrested and tried for his complicity in abuse and sex trafficking.

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Gene Thomas Gomulka's avatar

Thank you for that information. Based on a population of 2.7 million Catholics and an 11-year term of office as Archbishop of Buenos Aires, and based on clerical abuse rates in most (arch)dioceses throughout the world (such as the Archdiocese of Paris where there were 330,000 abuse victims identified over a 70-year period), there should have been around 52,000 abuse cases in Buenos Aires when Bergoglio was Archbishop. Remember, the actual number would be far higher because most clerical sex abuse is not reported. So, when Bergoglio wrote in his 2010 book, On Heaven and Earth, that sex abuse "has never occurred in my diocese," he told a really BIG lie. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9r5M7AEaTk

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Aaron's avatar

There were reports that his associate in "ending child sex trafficking" was actually a sex trafficker himself, and Bergoglio assisted in removing competition. We know there are international groups that traffic children. To think the Conciliar hierarchy haven't been involved in naive. Ratzinger, in his 2019 letter to German priests, admits that part of the revolutionary mindset of the 60s was sexual revolution...which was part and parcel of the overall religious revolution that V2 represented (which he also admitted in the same letter: to wit, that at V2, they attempted to create a totally new church).

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shhsgirl's avatar

The bishop who married us once commented, “Men are not heterosexual, men are not homosexual, men are just sexual.” An ancient once commented, “Any port in a storm.” In prison, men who prefer women on the outside, will take men. Just my two cents but I think we should be more concerned with the priests’ observations of their vows of celibacy rather than their various orientations.

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